Wait...do people still play this game?

[KRD]

If you did less reading between the lines and more actual reading, my friend, you would see that what I posted is simply the truth. Compared to ten years ago, the WA community has definitely shifted away from WormNet, first to websites and forums, then to messengers, IRC channels, shoutboxes and what have you. I didn't say oldie players never came to WormNet anymore, only that if you specifically wanted to get in touch with someone, waiting for them to join #AG wasn't the optimal approach anymore, as opposed to back then. In the case of PpZ clan members, you would be looking for them on entirely the wrong game, even!

Really, that's all I said.

[Extremist2]

Originally Posted by KRD

I didn't say oldie players never came to WormNet anymore, only that if you specifically wanted to get in touch with someone, waiting for them to join #AG wasn't the optimal approach anymore, as opposed to back then.

Again - please fix this.

[KRD]

Easier said than done. It's basically fighting human nature, technological progress and T17 all at the same time.

[Thurbo]

Do you want Team17 to stimulate you to actively play the game?

[yakuza]

KRD, fix all the wrong with WA.

[Extremist2]

Originally Posted by yakuza

KRD, fix all the wrong with WA.

Wrong acronym. You want CS & DC...

[StepS]

Originally Posted by Extremist2

Wrong acronym. You want CS & DC...

or spadge (just kidding)

[yakuza]

Originally Posted by Extremist2

Wrong acronym. You want CS & DC...

If only you knew...

[sPid3Yo]

Originally Posted by Obn3g0n

I remember you spid3yo!! You were in my clan xAx (ANARCHY) and PpZ a million years ago when I was JoE.. Did you get a working copy yet?

Yes I got my copy!!! Attempted a few games but I'm garbage mostly. Funny enough I don't remember all the abbreviations for the rules and keep getting kicked from games.

I seem to have some issues with maps not loading (gets stuck on please wait for level to load). I'm also not completely sure how people are setting the random maps/schemes/etc etc. I'm old school, this hostingbuddy **** wasn't around when I was playing.

[StepS]

Originally Posted by sPid3Yo

I seem to have some issues with maps not loading (gets stuck on please wait for level to load). I'm also not completely sure how people are setting the random maps/schemes/etc etc. I'm old school, this hostingbuddy **** wasn't around when I was playing.

in which path did you install the game? Are you sure that: antiviruses/firewalls/routers and such don't block this type of data?
Hostingbuddy isn't the main thing, in fact WormNAT2 allows hosting for 99.97% of people even behind firewalls, routers, etc. Just i) not everyone, speaking of newbies, knows about it, ii) not everyone will desire to install it, and iii) some people like the auto scheme and map selection offered by hostingbuddy rather than choosing themselves. Not to mention that the majority of hostingbuddy users in fact could host properly without need of any proxy, 60-70% with the need to configure router, and the others already open or prepared to host properly

[GreeN]

[citation needed]

[Thurbo]

Originally Posted by sPid3Yo

Yes I got my copy!!! Attempted a few games but I'm garbage mostly. Funny enough I don't remember all the abbreviations for the rules and keep getting kicked from games.

Hmm, I remember the time I could not speak English, and thus didn't even get to be aware there were rules.

I figured I was getting kicked so often because I was new and the medal kind of thing besides my name not improving to gold. Or maybe because I was German.

Horror.

[StepS]

Originally Posted by Thurbo

the medal kind of thing besides my name not improving to gold.

ranks in WA are disabled since 2000. If you see any rank higher than bronze - it's a custom rank set through a third-party program (snooper or irc client), and thus a fake one

PS: all ranks (highest is 3-stars).

Originally Posted by GreeN

[citation needed]

99.97% because I remember a guy whose internet was being connected through two satellites. and WormNAT2 didn't work for him

[sPid3Yo]

Fixed the map issue

It's cool to see so many people playing...gotta re learn all the F keys tho

[Extremist2]

Originally Posted by xCrazyx

Your statement makes it sound like there's a group of players being set to dust over at IRC, while there's only fresh blood around at WN

Turns out this is pretty accurate. When I go into AG, I almost never see any of the old-time hardcore players there. 95% relative newbies who either play rope or fail half of their turns in normal. I go into this forum or the IRC, and boom, there they all are.

This is a big problem, fellas. The newbies need to interact with the pros, and I mean NEED in the strongest possible sense. Any of you seen the movie Idiocracy? The opening scene sums up this situation pretty well, IMO...

I like to do things the traditional way, by booting up the game, not a snooper, and rubbing elbows with whomever shows up. But it gets boring for me because I'm a pretty good player and most of the others ain't.

Join me, and we shall kill two birds (or worms, if you prefer) with one stone. (Those being inexperienced new players & my lethargy, in case y'all were too distracted by yourselves to properly dissect the above...)

Maybe it would help if the IRC was advertised in WormNET, or even better, you start using WormNET as your IRC?

EDIT: I tried hanging out with the NNN clan - too hardcore for my taste...

[raffie]

Originally Posted by Extremist2

Turns out this is pretty accurate. When I go into AG, I almost never see any of the old-time hardcore players there. 95% relative newbies who either play rope or fail half of their turns in normal. I go into this forum or the IRC, and boom, there they all are.

This is a big problem, fellas. The newbies need to interact with the pros, and I mean NEED in the strongest possible sense. Any of you seen the movie Idiocracy? The opening scene sums up this situation pretty well, IMO...

I like to do things the traditional way, by booting up the game, not a snooper, and rubbing elbows with whomever shows up. But it gets boring for me because I'm a pretty good player and most of the others ain't.

Join me, and we shall kill two birds (or worms, if you prefer) with one stone. (Those being inexperienced new players & my lethargy, in case y'all were too distracted by yourselves to properly dissect the above...)

Maybe it would help if the IRC was advertised in WormNET, or even better, you start using WormNET as your IRC?

EDIT: I tried hanging out with the NNN clan - too hardcore for my taste...

And get out there that you can have your WormNet open windowed (using PX), I think thats a good step in the direction of using it in a similar way as a snooper.

[franpa]

Originally Posted by raffie

And get out there that you can have your WormNet open windowed (using PX), I think thats a good step in the direction of using it in a similar way as a snooper.

http://snooper.worms2d.info/

[StepS]

Originally Posted by franpa

http://snooper.worms2d.info/

That's intended for public use, doesn't log you in as another person.
Snoopers: http://worms2d.info/Software

Also, a direct link:
http://worms2d.info:17030/snooper/

[CyberShadow]

Originally Posted by StepS

Also, a permanent link:
http://worms2d.info:17030/snooper/

That's the opposite of a permanent link.

[StepS]

Originally Posted by CyberShadow

That's the opposite of a permanent link.

oops, not a permanent, i meant direct
also, it helps when the port 80 of your server is unresponsive.

[xCrazyx]

Well, you're talking bull**** Extremist

[Extremist2]

All I know is that if the old-timers don't interact more with the newbie riff-raff, the quality level of play will increase VERY slowly. I got fairly good (NNNers still kick my behind) by playing against good/helpful players. But that was years ago.

[NAiL]

Originally Posted by xCrazyx

Well, you're talking bull**** Extremist

Indeed, thats why I stopped checking these forums as its filled with people who dont play the game and don't have a clue what they're talking about.

[Extremist2]

I'm just reporting what I see, and I see mostly fresh faces who are average at best at normal schemes and/or only play rope, plus the occasional NNNer who slaughters everyone except for other NNN clan members. I'm not on WN 24/7, so maybe I'm just unlucky in seeing the good/old-time players. But I greatly doubt this.

[NAiL]

I really don't see where your coming from. You can go into AG and host a game and people will join. By the sounds of things you only play intermediate, there are always people ready to play intermediate just as there are always people ready to play other games. If you want to play more skilled opponents then you should just look harder.

Did you ever go to www.tus-wa.com? This is the current league for Worms Armageddon and its where the majority of active players hang out. If you want to play more skilled games you should register there and start playing games against other league players. There are cups and tournaments in every scheme, so if you want to familiarise yourself with skilled players you should hang out there, not here.

Im also suprised nobody felt the need to mention tus-wa.com to the OP. This game is as active and as competitive as its ever been and we are only a couple of weeks away from a brand new league design which is very exciting. There is some sort of underhanded animosity towards TUS by many of the users on this forum, and im not surprised, im aware of the ignorant, selfish, know it all nature of many users on this forum.

[Thurbo]

So you literally have to sign up to some tournament in order to meet a handful of skilled players?

I do not think this is exactly what Extremist was looking for.

[NAiL]

No.... you personify everything that is bad about people on this forum.

Extremist said he has trouble meeting skilled players online, I was pointing out a place where the majority of skilled, active players reside. Do you even understand the concept of a league and how it works? You are ignorant about such a HUGE part of the WA community and you talk like you know the game.

Tournaments and cups are just features of the league (along with many others). The main league allows players to choose from a selection of schemes and play them competitively online. You register at the league, then in Wormnet you type "TUS anyone"?, and with some luck you will find a more skilled player to play with other than just random noobs, which is what Extremeist said he was looking for.

There is also a league only for Intermediate, NNN league. If you only like to play intermediate and want to play against more skilled players it would be worth signing up here too. www.normalnonoobs.com

[Extremist2]

So it's impossible to meet good players outside of a league that new players likely don't know about?

Yeah, that's good...

Plus, I don't like the idea of HAVING to use a league format (like Thurbo said). The good players should be CASUALLY interacting with everyone else whenever possible. That's the core of my concern, y'know...

[NAiL]

You dont HAVE to. You said that you can't find anyone "good" to play with when you log on. How often do you log on? A few times a year? There is usually a good number of players ready to join games in AG, if you can't find any then you should join a league and meet HUNDREDS of skilled players all ready to play.

As for "pros interacting with noobs", they do. You are not active enough to see it obviously. How often do you go to Wormnet?

[Thurbo]

Originally Posted by NAiL

Do you even understand the concept of a league and how it works? You are ignorant about such a HUGE part of the WA community and you talk like you know the game.

I do know about the concept of a league and that's why I have never joined one in any multiplayer game, mainly because A) I play a lot of different games without focusing on one and B) as a result I got no further spare time for leagues or tournaments. No way. In all honesty, I should not have to join inofficial leagues to "know the game". That's somewhat self-explanatory, now don't you think?