Worms Revolution - Have your say on the final speechbank! (Ended!) - Page 3

BoboDaHobo · 5 May 2012, 14:04

I'm sorry if it was already mentionend but I had 3 ideas:

First: A "Link" Speechbank (it should have a different name), like Link from Legend of Zelda
"Huaaaah!"
"Ha!!"
"Uwah!"
"He!"
"*pant*"

Second: Russian Dialect, like the Heavy from Team Fortress 2

Third: A singing Speechbank, everything is sung

Squirminator2k · 5 May 2012, 17:25

Memespeak - didn't we already get that in Worms Reloaded with l33tsp3ak?

Squirminator2k · 5 May 2012, 17:26

quoted:

Originally Posted by Thurbo

Own speech banks could be a problem should this game feature lip-synch for the characters I presume.

You assume the lipsync is hand-animated. It wasan't in W3D, W4M or WUM, why would it be now?

Thurbo · 5 May 2012, 17:50

quoted:

Originally Posted by Squirminator2k

You assume the lipsync is hand-animated. It wasan't in W3D, W4M or WUM, why would it be now?

It wasn't? In the folders there are text files called "LIP" for each speech bank. Apparently these include informations on the letters used in each sentence, I guess there is an animation for each letter forming the complete mouth animation when put together.

Example: "Amazing" (Pirate speech bank, not sure what it actually says):

code ::
#4261958775 amazing.txt
0,CONS,<none>
1,A,<none>
3,CONS,<none>
6,EI,<none>
9,CONS,<none>
10,EI,<none>
12,A,<none>
14,EI,<none>
17,CONS,<none>
21,EI,<none>
24,CONS,<none>
25,O,<none>
27,A,<none>
29,CONS,<none>
30,O,<none>
31,A,<none>
33,L,<none>
37,A,<none>
41,CONS,<none>
44,A,<none>
47,EI,<none>
51,CONS,<none>

Squirminator2k · 5 May 2012, 18:02

Huh. I thought it was generated in real-time.

jsgnext · 5 May 2012, 19:20

quoted:

Originally Posted by Thurbo

It wasn't? In the folders there are text files called "LIP" for each speech bank. Apparently these include informations on the letters used in each sentence, I guess there is an animation for each letter forming the complete mouth animation when put together.

Yes, that implies the game needs them for lip sync....but that doesnt mean that those .txt were hand-made...I mean, maybe they developed an automated utility for creating those .txt lip files based on a soundfile input...
Thats, most likely, due to performance issues...realtime lip sync is a lot more expensive than reading a pre-generated text file....and the results are the same...

Thurbo · 5 May 2012, 20:12

quoted:

Originally Posted by jsgnext

Yes, that implies the game needs them for lip sync....but that doesnt mean that those .txt were hand-made...I mean, maybe they developed an automated utility for creating those .txt lip files based on a soundfile input...

That would explain the worm's mussitation while the audience is applauding for the Game Show speech bank.

Wormy34 · 7 May 2012, 00:29

Memespeak certainly would sound awful. I wouldnt want my worms to be saying trolol after they kill a worm. And yes, I know I just cannot choose it but including memes in a game that has barely any ties to them would just ruin it.

In other news, we should have an apathetic speech bank. It would be cool if my worms sounded like those serial killers who knows what you're gonna do next :P,
Or we could have a bass voice for worms. They would sound cool ingame.

bonz · 7 May 2012, 10:08

The Flintstones had about 3 lip animations and simply repeated in the same, single pattern over and over.
Worked out fine.

SupSuper · 7 May 2012, 10:58

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

The Flintstones had about 3 lip animations and simply repeated in the same, single pattern over and over.
Worked out fine.

With 2D frames.

jsgnext · 7 May 2012, 18:20

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

The Flintstones had about 3 lip animations and simply repeated in the same, single pattern over and over.
Worked out fine.

Why?!, My childhood is Crying...

Squirminator2k · 7 May 2012, 18:24

Your childhood didn't actually notice.

SupSuper · 7 May 2012, 19:15

In fact a lot of modern 2D animation is still done like that.

Thurbo · 7 May 2012, 19:30

I know that some modern 2D animation uses a different frame for each freaking letter. And for sounds, like "th".

Jogger Jim · 8 May 2012, 23:33

Brummie sppechbank!! Always comical potential in that one!!

**BethanyTeam17** · 9 May 2012, 10:58

Thank you to everyone who suggested ideas and voted for the final speechbank to be included in Worms Revolution. Voting has now ended and our winner is .... the Meme Talk speechbank! This speechbank will now be created by one of our designers and feature in the game!

themaelsto · 9 May 2012, 11:29

Oh, yey! Do I get a free super-sheep ride? =P

Akuryou13 · 9 May 2012, 17:22

quoted:

Originally Posted by themaelsto

Oh, yey! Do I get a free super-sheep ride? =P

Only if you grab its tail....

cnnoi33 · 9 May 2012, 20:09

I think I'm late but...
Dr. Kleiner and Magnusson

Saint Isz · 9 May 2012, 20:11

quoted:

Originally Posted by bethamari

Thank you to everyone who suggested ideas and voted for the final speechbank to be included in Worms Revolution. Voting has now ended and our winner is .... the Meme Talk speechbank! This speechbank will now be created by one of our designers and feature in the game!

Will there be a way to disable this speech bank from playing in the online multiplayer? Maybe you could flip a switch to replace that bank with sounds of a baby farting in a bathtub.

Extremist2 · 9 May 2012, 21:24

Meme talk might be good if done right (not irritating).

Akuryou13 · 9 May 2012, 22:03

quoted:

Originally Posted by Extremist2

Meme talk might be good if done right (not irritating).

either way around, EVERYONE is going to be using it and it'll get obnoxious very quickly.

Star&Moon · 9 May 2012, 22:25

I think there should be an overly dramatic soundbank, if there isn't one already.

Thurbo · 10 May 2012, 14:58

quoted:

Originally Posted by Akuryou13

Only if you grab its tail....

quoted:

Originally Posted by Akuryou13

either way around, EVERYONE is going to be using it and it'll get obnoxious very quickly.

Not everyone was using the l33t speechbank in Worms Reloaded either. It's probably not going to be any more popular than other speechbanks.

**BethanyTeam17** · 11 May 2012, 14:46

quoted:

Originally Posted by Extremist2

Meme talk might be good if done right (not irritating).

This. It's been produced with the same worms humour that's in all our speechbanks. I sat in on it being recorded today I couldn't stop laughing at it, its brilliant and I don't think it will irritate people

Plus here's another little fact for you about Revolution.... If anything the speechbanks in Revolution will be far less irritating as we've introduced a bucket system. So, rather than the worm saying one set phrase when something happens, it will now choose a phrase that fits with that action from a bucket selection, meaning that you shouldn't hear as many repeats of phrases as has happened in previous games.

Fijut · 11 May 2012, 14:55

quoted:

Originally Posted by bethamari

So, rather than the worm saying one set phrase when something happens, it will now choose a phrase that fits with that action from a bucket selection, meaning that you shouldn't hear as many repeats of phrases as has happened in previous games.

Sounds good, but if there's more than one sound for each jump type now i will miss being able to spam the Thespian "Nyhaa!" during retreat time

Worm Mad · 11 May 2012, 15:55

quoted:

Originally Posted by bethamari

Plus here's another little fact for you about Revolution.... If anything the speechbanks in Revolution will be far less irritating as we've introduced a bucket system. So, rather than the worm saying one set phrase when something happens, it will now choose a phrase that fits with that action from a bucket selection, meaning that you shouldn't hear as many repeats of phrases as has happened in previous games.

This sounds cool but makes me worry about how feasible custom soundbanks are. Are there any plans to include a soundbank editor with Revolution or is that something which won't be available at the start but may come along later (like it did with Reloaded)?

Squirminator2k · 11 May 2012, 17:59

quoted:

Originally Posted by Worm Mad

This sounds cool but makes me worry about how feasible custom soundbanks are. Are there any plans to include a soundbank editor with Revolution or is that something which won't be available at the start but may come along later (like it did with Reloaded)?

Worms: The Director's Cut also used a bucket system for speechbanks, so custom banks aren't entirely impossible...

omicron · 11 May 2012, 20:09

All i really wanted to see was the return of The Raj, but custom speechbanks at least mean I can still have that, even if nobody else can hear it.

The Raj was amazing...

bonz · 12 May 2012, 01:01

Custom speechbanks should be perfectly feasible.
Each bucket would only need to contain at least one speech file, so even unused ones from previous games could be added/converted.
Team17Test, yay!

That is, if custom ones are supported at all and are easily available as sound files or non-encrypted files.

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BoboDaHobo Join Date: May 2012 Location: Oberösterreich	I'm sorry if it was already mentionend but I had 3 ideas: First: A "Link" Speechbank (it should have a different name), like Link from Legend of Zelda "Huaaaah!" "Ha!!" "Uwah!" "He!" "pant" Second: Russian Dialect, like the Heavy from Team Fortress 2 Third: A singing Speechbank, everything is sung

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bonz Join Date: December 2003 Location: Graz, Austria	The Flintstones had about 3 lip animations and simply repeated in the same, single pattern over and over. Worked out fine.

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