Worms Revolution - Classes

[jsgnext]

Im wondering if the team composition is selected before the match starts or its static...
Case 1: "team EnGs" is composed by 4 scientists, "Mc donalds" is composed by 4 heavy ones...
Case 2: "team Engys" selected; Now select the team composition...

[Squirminator2k]

Presumably it's built into the team customization.

[Plasma]

Originally Posted by Squirminator2k

Fairly confident this question has already been answered:

Nah, I mean would it be possible to use a full team of scientists without putting yourself at a complete disadvantage.

[_Kilburn]

Originally Posted by Plasma

Nah, I mean would it be possible to use a full team of scientists without putting yourself at a complete disadvantage.

Depends on how much health a single Scientist regenerates per turn. If it stacks then it would be pretty powerful. Combine that with well placed sentries and magnets, and you'd have a nice darkside-oriented team composition.

[Akuryou13]

Originally Posted by Plasma

Nah, I mean would it be possible to use a full team of scientists without putting yourself at a complete disadvantage.

that's obviously a subjective answer. The Scientist heals his team, so a team of them would be awesome, but you're limiting your strategies. Whether it's viable or not is a matter of whether your strategy suits that team build.

[vackillers]

its a playing style, you can have all 4 worms as the same class, and its only a disadvantage if you dont play good enough to the class strengths, but if the scientists is exactly how you normally play anyway, then the disadvantages wouldn't really matter as your playing to your strategy anyway.

[jsgnext]

If the Scientist's health wave stacks, and select worm is in....I think the best comp would be 3 Scientist 1 solider...

[Thurbo]

How will schemes be handled in this game mode?

Think of Mr. Online Game Troll disable all sentries and magnets in his scheme to put his team of Heavies at a clear advantage against a team full of Scientists. That would suck.

A lot.

[vackillers]

lol, just the way it goes.... you'd have to counter it, which should be easy .....

[Akuryou13]

I'd like to see PERSONAL weapon lists. Points 4 Weapons mode sort of deal for each team individually.

[jsgnext]

IMO, most custom schemes wont be balanced for teams composed by an unique class...at all, but having scout teams as an exception, of course...
Ex1: Bng- Team heavies vs team scientists = obvious result
Ex2: Hysteria- Team heavies vs team scout = obvious result
Ex3: Shoopa/roper/Jetpackrace- Team heavies vs <insert team name here> = obvious result

Thats why I think we should be able to choose the team composition in the team selection menu and not in the team creation one...
Something like: "Select your team" ---> "Look at the Scheme"---->"Select your comp" ---> "Start game"

[_Kilburn]

Originally Posted by Akuryou13

I'd like to see PERSONAL weapon lists. Points 4 Weapons mode sort of deal for each team individually.

Points 4 Weapons was an awesome concept, although it kinda needed some work. I remember it was possible to put all your points into infinite airstrikes, which gave you quite the advantage most of the time.

[Akuryou13]

Originally Posted by _Kilburn

Points 4 Weapons was an awesome concept, although it kinda needed some work. I remember it was possible to put all your points into infinite airstrikes, which gave you quite the advantage most of the time.

needs work, sure, but definite potential.

[Fijut]

looks interestings, shame about this 4 worm per team limit, not sure what the real reason behind that is... sounds like armageddon's engine was better, comparing it to reloaded at least.

Does this mean revolution also won't have an easy way to import custom landscapes, schemes etc and play them online with others like world party/armageddon did?

[Squirminator2k]

Originally Posted by Fijut

looks interestings, shame about this 4 worm per team limit, not sure what the real reason behind that is... sounds like armageddon's engine was better, comparing it to reloaded at least.

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[BethanyTeam17]

Originally Posted by Fijut

looks interestings, shame about this 4 worm per team limit, not sure what the real reason behind that is... sounds like armageddon's engine was better, comparing it to reloaded at least.

Does this mean revolution also won't have an easy way to import custom landscapes, schemes etc and play them online with others like world party/armageddon did?

Hi, welcome to the forums.

This has already been covered in this same forum. See posts 1, 2 and 3 for reference.

Let's please not fire up already discussed topics if possible

[shinryuux]

I think the water bomb would be overpowering if it kills the worm instantly. Would it be better if it was damage over time but dries up as well?

[vackillers]

Originally Posted by shinryuux

I think the water bomb would be overpowering if it kills the worm instantly. Would it be better if it was damage over time but dries up as well?

Like that idea!

[MtlAngelus]

I would like to know how customizable schemes will be in this game. The last several worms games have been extremely limited in this matter, which has been probably the biggest disappointment as far as I'm concerned.

[Squirminator2k]

I love that people with absolutely zero programming knowledge and experience are attempting to educate a decades-old game developer on the subject of what a games console is and is not capable of doing.

You guys are totes adorbs.

[i<3worms:)]

Originally Posted by shinryuux

I think the water bomb would be overpowering if it kills the worm instantly. Would it be better if it was damage over time but dries up as well?

Your answer is on the 4th page

Originally Posted by bethamari

They'll take water damage but not drown instantly - that would be a tad cruel

[raffie]

That would be one of those little things that would be nice if it were customizable, see (worm only gets hurt from water / worm drowns => death).

[jsgnext]

Originally Posted by vackillers

i sent a pm to bethamari on this mater actually, weather or not T17 staff have pm enabled or not i dunno, but with todays technology, most gaming machines have so much raw power, they should "easierly" be able to handle more then the current number of worms in ReL and Rev, its not like the days of old, where people are using crappy half ass laptops, or have intergrated graphics cards.

Not everyone runs a corei7 with and Nvidia 9999 GT...in fact, most of the people doesnt...
T17 always aims to a bigger target than hardcore gamers with hardcore hardware settings...I mean, if those people with "crappy laptops" can run their game...it will sell better than if only a hardcore hardware can...
The less System requirements the bigger market it covers...

[Fijut]

Originally Posted by jsgnext

T17 always aims to a bigger target than hardcore gamers with hardcore hardware settings...I mean, if those people with "crappy laptops" can run their game...it will sell better than if only a hardcore hardware can...
The less System requirements the bigger market it covers...

I'm pretty sure Worms Reloaded doesn't run on integrated graphics, and it doesn't run at all on my parent's pc, which is a disappointment as i always used to play worms world party a lot with my old man, but then win7 came..

[Thurbo]

Originally Posted by raffie

That would be one of those little things that would be nice if it were customizable, see (worm only gets hurt from water / worm drowns => death).

Although the "Let the players decide wether they want to make that weapon completely overpowered and thus ruin their or other players' gameplay experience, they are who play the game after all" direction isn't exactly the one chosen by every game, I see no reason not to hope for this

[vackillers]

Originally Posted by jsgnext

Not everyone runs a corei7 with and Nvidia 9999 GT...in fact, most of the people doesnt...
T17 always aims to a bigger target than hardcore gamers with hardcore hardware settings...I mean, if those people with "crappy laptops" can run their game...it will sell better than if only a hardcore hardware can...
The less System requirements the bigger market it covers...

any gfx card that was made in the last 2 years should easierly run a worms game, be serious here man I've only got a phenom II X3 with a GTX 260 and can run stuff like BF3 on high just fine, over 3 yr old machine worms would not be an issue, and if it is, then dont use more worms, just having the option would be enough. I gave a possible reason with various resolutions of tvs, wide screens ect.. as a possible technical issue, not necessarily hardware related coz todays hardware, shouldn't be an issue was the point i was making.

[ZeptOr]

Originally Posted by _Kilburn

Points 4 Weapons was an awesome concept, although it kinda needed some work. I remember it was possible to put all your points into infinite airstrikes, which gave you quite the advantage most of the time.

Points 4 weapons was the best mode hands down. I'd love to see it in worms revolution.

[Obn3g0n]

Originally Posted by Fijut

I'm pretty sure Worms Reloaded doesn't run on integrated graphics, and it doesn't run at all on my parent's pc, which is a disappointment as i always used to play worms world party a lot with my old man, but then win7 came..

Worms armageddon is the same as wwp and when patched it works on win7 and has a lot of extra features

[fireball87]

Originally Posted by MtlAngelus

I would like to know how customizable schemes will be in this game. The last several worms games have been extremely limited in this matter, which has been probably the biggest disappointment as far as I'm concerned.

Good custom scheme support is my greatest hope too, it became endlessly disappointing to me when I realized worms/2/reloaded wouldn't let me playably recreate retro, which is too bad seeing as it's my favorite scheme to play. I've never been all that fond of the weapon power balance of the newer schemes, which tend to either offer you a great deal too much power, or only the most standard weapons available. And I like instant land mines... (I'd probably spend a fair bit of time on the original worms still, if there was a decent way to play it online).

The class system does look like it will be entertaining though (though I wish you could have different stockpiles per class, as it would be an interesting tool for some fantastic scheme creation), and the new engine is pretty, so I'll probably pick up the game regardless. (Who am I kidding though, I'm going to buy almost every Worms release, and if I don't like it for some reason or other, just consider it a payment for keeping the WA servers up... game has already paid for itself a few times over.)

[Wolv]

Originally Posted by bethamari

The whole game and logic has been built and is balanced for 4 worms per team.

If people did want more than they could set multiple teams to the same allied colour to get around it.

But that's the way the game is, for the reasons already explained

Will it be possible in an online match as well if I want to do a 1vs1 with 16 worms (both player set up 2 teams [4 teams in a 1vs1] which they can control) on a map? Since you weren't able to do that in Reloaded online.