what things were the weapons in worms based on?

bonz · 11 Jul 2005, 20:42

what things were the weapons (and other stuff) in worms based on?

banana: because they also come in clusters (like a cluster bomb)
mb bomb: martyn 'spadge' brown
mad cows: from the -->bovine spongiform encephalopathy that was heavily present in the 90s in britain
cloned sheep (worms 2): -->dolly the sheep that was born in 1996 in britain
holy handgrenade: based on the -->holy handgrenade of antioch in monty python & the holy grail (complete with it's 3sec fuse; check my sig)
french nuclear test (worms 2): based on the -->french underground nuclear tests in the mid 90s at the mururoa atoll
indian nuclear test: based on the 1998 indian underground nuclear tests (pakistan didn't quite like that)
homing pigeon: a joke about the word "homing" as in homing missile
patsy's magic bullet: based on the patsy's (lee harvey oswald) magic bullet, which shot john f. kennedy
mike's carpet bomb: based on the term -->carpet bombing (don't know where the mike comes from though)
ninja rope: based on batman. originally called "bat rope" in early worms 1 versions. ninjas also use such ropes.
prod (worms dc): in worms dc it isn't a selectable weapon, instead you had to activate it by standing next to a worm and press the cursor keys "back, back, forward, forward". kind of a tribute to fighting games like mortal kombat.
skip go: a joke about the word "skip" and "skipping rope".
firepunch & dragonball: based on streetfighter moves; called fireball & dragonpunch in early versions of worms 1. the original soundbank still has the correct japanese words for the two.
scales of justice: based on the -->goddess justitia (in the roman mythology; themis in the greek), goddess of justice & law, whose symbol was a pair of scales.
concrete donkey: based on a -->concrete donkey supposedly standing in andy davidson's parents' garden
suicide bomber: probably based on -->suicide bombing; popular throughout the world.
kenny-on-a-rope (worms dc): based on -->kenny magnusson, an ex-team17 artist
teleport: obviously based on star trek; the handheld device looks like the communication device used in star trek to me though.
salvation army: based on the -->salvation army, a protestant christian organisation. the words "blood & fire" in their standard make this even funnier after all these years.
red bull (worms 3d): based on -->austria's famous energy drink, which gives you wings.
sticky bomb (worms 3d): obviously based on the -->british no 74 st grenade issued in world war 2.

know anything else?

double post edit

skipping weapons along the water: based on the -->wallis dambusting bouncing bomb

philby4000 · 11 Jul 2005, 21:35

Wasn't the banana bomb 'borrowed' from another game?

The Mike in Mike's carpet bomb is probably just a generic name for a company that sells carpets. I.E Mike's carpets.

There's a fair few carpet stores run by people called mike.

http://www.upmystreet.com/UK/findmyn...in/Batley.html

Also, what version of worms 1 have you been playing?

The prod is a selectable weapon.
It's icon is 2 outstreatched arms.

bonz · 11 Jul 2005, 22:55

quoted:

Originally Posted by philby4000

There's a fair few carpet stores run by people called mike.

maybe this one?
Michael Fox Carpet Services
11 Ashmore Drive
Ossett West Yorkshire WF5 9SF
Tel: (01924 278987)

double post edit

quoted:

Originally Posted by philby4000

Also, what version of worms 1 have you been playing?
The prod is a selectable weapon.
It's icon is 2 outstreatched arms.

oh, my error.
just checked, it's in w:dc.
and it's back, back, forward, forward.

AndrewTaylor · 12 Jul 2005, 00:07

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

maybe this one?
Michael Fox Carpet Services
11 Ashmore Drive
Ossett West Yorkshire WF5 9SF
Tel: (01924 278987)

Terribly amusing: Mike's Carpets didn't want their name in Worms, and it was removed -- it's not in WWP; it's just called "Carpet Bomb". Despite this their adverts used to refer to them as "The Famous Mike's Carpets" when in fact nobody had ever heard of them outside Yorkshire except through Worms.

Possibly it meant Mike was famous. I never found out his surname, so possibly he is Michael Douglas, in which case he is quite famous.

bonz · 12 Jul 2005, 00:26

quoted:

Originally Posted by AndrewTaylor

Terribly amusing: Mike's Carpets didn't want their name in Worms, and it was removed -- it's not in WWP; it's just called "Carpet Bomb". Despite this their adverts used to refer to them as "The Famous Mike's Carpets" when in fact nobody had ever heard of them outside Yorkshire except through Worms.

nice little anecdote.

where did you get that from?

i just checked:
in w:a it's just "carpet bomb" too.
also, "nuclear test", not indian nuclear test.
(though you see a maharadsha palace as weapon icon & hear some indidan style sitar music when activated)

AndrewTaylor · 12 Jul 2005, 01:42

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

nice little anecdote.

where did you get that from?

Pieced it together bit by bit from posts here, mostly.

bloopy · 12 Jul 2005, 05:41

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

what things were the weapons (and other stuff) in worms based on?

banana: because they also come in clusters (like a cluster bomb)
homing pigeon: a joke about the word "homing" as in homing missile

The banana bomb is likely to be inspired by the old qbasic game Gorillas, where you try to hit your opponent with a banana.

Homing Pigeons are no joke at all bonz!

bonz · 12 Jul 2005, 06:07

quoted:

Originally Posted by bloopy

The banana bomb is likely to be inspired by the old qbasic game Gorillas, where you try to hit your opponent with a banana.]

oh, yeah! microsoft's gorilla! i often played that.

quoted:

Originally Posted by bloopy

Homing Pigeons are no joke at all bonz!

i know, i know.
though i think the term "homing" as used in homing missiles was derived from the homing pigeon,
where it just means flying home to the dovecot.
well, english is not my native language...

bloopy · 12 Jul 2005, 08:51

Maybe the word homing was used with pigeons first, I don't really know. But now I understand what you meant about the homing pigeon joke, because the homing pigeon in Worms is acting like a homing missile. It flies to the target, and not to its home like a real homing pigeon!

Boggy_B · 12 Jul 2005, 09:11

Well, i totally agree with the red bull, but what is the kenny on a rope? Can you take a screenshot of that one?

philby4000 · 12 Jul 2005, 14:27

quoted:

Originally Posted by Boggy_B

but what is the kenny on a rope? Can you take a screenshot of that one?

Probably the most obscure worms weapon ever (apart from the mole-bomb in worms reinforcements, which requires some hex editing to make it apear in game at all).

Kenny on a rope was from a cheat mode in W: DC. By entering the code you translate all the weapon names into sweedish and replace the 'sheep on a rope' (which only apeared in W: DC) with 'kenny on a rope'.

Basicaly a weapon Icon and sprite change.

kikumbob · 12 Jul 2005, 17:19

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

skipping weapons along the water: based on the -->wallis dambusting bouncing bomb

Are you quite sure they didnt just think it would be funny to make weapons skim across water, like flat stones do.

bonz · 12 Jul 2005, 19:43

quoted:

Originally Posted by kikumbob

Are you quite sure they didnt just think it would be funny to make weapons skim across water, like flat stones do.

no, in one of the bazooka training mission in w:a (where you have to hit a very low far away target)
the info text even mentions the world war 2 weapon connection.

quoted:

Originally Posted by Boggy_B

what is the kenny on a rope? Can you take a screenshot of that one?

-->sheep-on-a-rope
-->kenny-on-a-rope
-->kenny-on-a-rope icon
check the weapon names being all swedish due to the monkey mode activated by the cheat KARTONG APA (meaning cardboard monkey).

double post edit

sheep: according to andrew taylor in -->this post, it was based on lots of radioactive sheep after the 1986 chernobyl accident.
super sheep: maybe some of the radioactive sheep got superpowers...

obviously a hint at superman.

Diablo vt · 14 Jul 2005, 17:38

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

no, in one of the bazooka training mission in w:a (where you have to hit a very low far away target)
the info text even mentions the world war 2 weapon connection.

-->sheep-on-a-rope
-->kenny-on-a-rope
-->kenny-on-a-rope icon
check the weapon names being all swedish due to the monkey mode activated by the cheat KARTONG APA (meaning cardboard monkey).

double post edit

sheep: according to andrew taylor in -->this post, it was based on lots of radioactive sheep after the 1986 chernobyl accident.
super sheep: maybe some of the radioactive sheep got superpowers...

obviously a hint at superman.

Got any more screenshots for worms dc, I like them

Glenn · 14 Jul 2005, 18:09

You missed a few fairly obvious ones:

Mail Strike: Exactly what it says on the tin.
Armageddon: Based off the Biblical battle by the same name.
Kamikaze: Divine Wind in Japanese. Also, name given to the Japanese suicide pilots in WWII.

Johnnynet · 14 Jul 2005, 18:14

Nice catch glenn

also you missed a whole lot of them, there are signifigance for every weapon I think...

AndrewTaylor · 14 Jul 2005, 18:18

quoted:

Originally Posted by Glenn

Mail Strike: Exactly what it says on the tin.

That's hardly descriptive. It's a pun -- there was a postal workers' strike.

kikumbob · 14 Jul 2005, 20:35

And what of lottery strike?

philby4000 · 14 Jul 2005, 20:45

The national lottery?

Or lotto as it's now called, because the general public can't handle more than 2 sylables.

Preasure · 14 Jul 2005, 21:00

So why change Post Office to 'Concygnia'? Or however you spell it. Hell, i'm having difficulty saying it

bonz · 14 Jul 2005, 21:34

quoted:

Originally Posted by Glenn

You missed a few fairly obvious ones

yeah, you're right, but a few are too obvious...

quoted:

Originally Posted by Glenn

Mail Strike: Exactly what it says on the tin.
Armageddon: Based off the Biblical battle by the same name.

mail strike: the explosive letters also refer to various letter bombings that occured in the nineties,
for example -->franz fuchs here in styria where i live.
('twas damn funny to make fun about a schoolmate with the same family name

"oh, they didn't catch you yet?" damn, that is morbid)

armageddon: was probably also based on the -->movie that came out in 1998.

quoted:

Originally Posted by Diablo vt

Got any more screenshots for worms dc, I like them

get an amiga emulator (winuae) & download the game from www.dream17.co.uk!

MrBunsy · 14 Jul 2005, 22:24

quoted:

Originally Posted by Preasure

So why change Post Office to 'Concygnia'? Or however you spell it. Hell, i'm having difficulty saying it

To waste however many millions of pounds for the free advertising they produced when they chnaged it back again.

Glenn · 15 Jul 2005, 02:41

Coincidentally, bonz, the movie Armageddon made in 1998 is based off the concept of Armageddon (ie: end of the world) found in the Bible. So, through substitution, you still end up with the Armageddon weapon being based off of the Armageddon in the Bible.

bonz · 18 Jul 2005, 23:02

quoted:

Originally Posted by Glenn

Coincidentally, bonz, the movie Armageddon made in 1998 is based off the concept of Armageddon (ie: end of the world) found in the Bible. So, through substitution, you still end up with the Armageddon weapon being based off of the Armageddon in the Bible.

sure, but they were mostly inspired by stuff around the time they were making the game.
(mad cow disesase, sheep dolly)
don't think they were reading the bible all the time back then.

double post edit

donor card: the -->donor card in w:a & wwp was obviuosly a joke on this -->NHS organ donor card.

kikumbob · 19 Jul 2005, 11:27

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

sure, but they were mostly inspired by stuff around the time they were making the game.
(mad cow disesase, sheep dolly)
don't think they were reading the bible all the time back then.

They dont have to. The armaggedon is a concept that most people know about. Just like things like the 5 (is it?) horsemen of the apocolypse, or Jesus, God, the romans etc. You dont need to have read the bible or many history books to have an idea of what they are.

AndrewTaylor · 19 Jul 2005, 11:28

quoted:

Originally Posted by kikumbob

The armaggedon is a concept that most people know about. Just like things like the 5 (is it?) horsemen of the apocolypse

Aye, five.

Death, War, Famine, Pestilence, and People Who Say "Guesstimate".

Splapp · 19 Jul 2005, 14:56

Wasn't the French Sheep Strike based on something to do with French farmers burning sheep? I'm sure I read something like that somewhere... I dunno.

MrBunsy · 19 Jul 2005, 17:25

quoted:

Originally Posted by Splapp

Wasn't the French Sheep Strike based on something to do with French farmers burning sheep? I'm sure I read something like that somewhere... I dunno.

I thought that was just another joke at the French farmers who seem to strike about anything.

pilot62 · 19 Jul 2005, 18:18

Kammizazzi, from the japanese kammikazzi suicide pilots of the second world war .

Suicide Bomber, do you really need me to explain it.

Napalm strike, from actual napalm strikes, where napalm, which is sort of fire-ish crap or something, is droppd over an area of land.

Grenades, based on the hand held explosive devise of the same name.

And there are some which are downright obvious.

pinoocho · 19 Jul 2005, 22:15

Look at this. I gift a fish to anyone that know who is him and where can you find the statue

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bonz Join Date: December 2003 Location: Graz, Austria	what things were the weapons in worms based on? what things were the weapons (and other stuff) in worms based on? banana: because they also come in clusters (like a cluster bomb) mb bomb: martyn 'spadge' brown mad cows: from the -->bovine spongiform encephalopathy that was heavily present in the 90s in britain cloned sheep (worms 2): -->dolly the sheep that was born in 1996 in britain holy handgrenade: based on the -->holy handgrenade of antioch in monty python & the holy grail (complete with it's 3sec fuse; check my sig) french nuclear test (worms 2): based on the -->french underground nuclear tests in the mid 90s at the mururoa atoll indian nuclear test: based on the 1998 indian underground nuclear tests (pakistan didn't quite like that) homing pigeon: a joke about the word "homing" as in homing missile patsy's magic bullet: based on the patsy's (lee harvey oswald) magic bullet, which shot john f. kennedy mike's carpet bomb: based on the term -->carpet bombing (don't know where the mike comes from though) ninja rope: based on batman. originally called "bat rope" in early worms 1 versions. ninjas also use such ropes. prod (worms dc): in worms dc it isn't a selectable weapon, instead you had to activate it by standing next to a worm and press the cursor keys "back, back, forward, forward". kind of a tribute to fighting games like mortal kombat. skip go: a joke about the word "skip" and "skipping rope". firepunch & dragonball: based on streetfighter moves; called fireball & dragonpunch in early versions of worms 1. the original soundbank still has the correct japanese words for the two. scales of justice: based on the -->goddess justitia (in the roman mythology; themis in the greek), goddess of justice & law, whose symbol was a pair of scales. concrete donkey: based on a -->concrete donkey supposedly standing in andy davidson's parents' garden suicide bomber: probably based on -->suicide bombing; popular throughout the world. kenny-on-a-rope (worms dc): based on -->kenny magnusson, an ex-team17 artist teleport: obviously based on star trek; the handheld device looks like the communication device used in star trek to me though. salvation army: based on the -->salvation army, a protestant christian organisation. the words "blood & fire" in their standard make this even funnier after all these years. red bull (worms 3d): based on -->austria's famous energy drink, which gives you wings. sticky bomb (worms 3d): obviously based on the -->british no 74 st grenade issued in world war 2. know anything else? double post edit skipping weapons along the water: based on the -->wallis dambusting bouncing bomb Last edited by bonz; 11 Jul 2005 at 22:57. Reason: erroneous wrongness

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philby4000 Join Date: March 2003 Location: never you mind.	Wasn't the banana bomb 'borrowed' from another game? The Mike in Mike's carpet bomb is probably just a generic name for a company that sells carpets. I.E Mike's carpets. There's a fair few carpet stores run by people called mike. http://www.upmystreet.com/UK/findmyn...in/Batley.html Also, what version of worms 1 have you been playing? The prod is a selectable weapon. It's icon is 2 outstreatched arms. __________________ Would you like to join my secret avatar club?

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Glenn Join Date: July 2003 Location: Indianapolis	You missed a few fairly obvious ones: Mail Strike: Exactly what it says on the tin. Armageddon: Based off the Biblical battle by the same name. Kamikaze: Divine Wind in Japanese. Also, name given to the Japanese suicide pilots in WWII. __________________ God Team's Forseti - Arbiter of Justice Through fire, justice is served. A hero in shining armor is called. To punish evil forces, I have been charged.

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Glenn Join Date: July 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Coincidentally, bonz, the movie Armageddon made in 1998 is based off the concept of Armageddon (ie: end of the world) found in the Bible. So, through substitution, you still end up with the Armageddon weapon being based off of the Armageddon in the Bible. __________________ God Team's Forseti - Arbiter of Justice Through fire, justice is served. A hero in shining armor is called. To punish evil forces, I have been charged.

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pilot62 Join Date: September 2003 Location: Hampshire, England	Kammizazzi, from the japanese kammikazzi suicide pilots of the second world war . Suicide Bomber, do you really need me to explain it. Napalm strike, from actual napalm strikes, where napalm, which is sort of fire-ish crap or something, is droppd over an area of land. Grenades, based on the hand held explosive devise of the same name. And there are some which are downright obvious.

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