Instant Messaging Programs - your choise!

Maunem2 · 2 Oct 2006, 16:41

Hello!

I have ICQ. Few days ago I registered in network of Windows Messenger, but my program can't work - it say, that something with .NET Messenger Service (but it's all right) or with connecting with Internet (but it's all right, too)...

What's happened? What I must do???

bonz · 2 Oct 2006, 17:03

http://www.miranda-im.org
'Nuff said.

Maunem2 · 2 Oct 2006, 17:05

Hi!
...But, Miranda use ICQ net, yeah?

bonz · 2 Oct 2006, 17:07

quoted:

Originally Posted by Maunem2

...But, Miranda use ICQ net, yeah?

Yes, and it also uses MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Google and many more.
And it's very versatile with hundreds of user made plugins, needs a fraction of the ressources that ICQ needs.
Also, no annoying ads.

Maunem2 · 2 Oct 2006, 17:10

Cooool!
Yeuhoo!

Muzer · 2 Oct 2006, 17:55

I can't get miranda IM to work, so I use trillian. Google it.

bonz · 2 Oct 2006, 18:11

quoted:

Originally Posted by Muzer

I can't get miranda IM to work, so I use trillian. Google it.

I used Trillian for a short period before I switched to Miranda, but I didn't like the interface because it was too different from ICQ in some aspects and I'm a lazy bum who can't be bothered to learn new stuff when I'm already used to something.

Mr.cosmico · 2 Oct 2006, 19:32

Even if MSN ain't that great, it's still better than any other IMP I've tried... Simple and works. (most of the time.

)

Vader · 2 Oct 2006, 19:52

Which is better, Miranda or Trillian?

bonz · 2 Oct 2006, 22:12

quoted:

Originally Posted by Mr.cosmico

it's still better than any other IMP I've tried... Simple and works. (most of the time.

)

How could MSN alone be better?

In Miranda I have contacts from ICQ, MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Jabber and Skype on one single contact list in one single, low ressource program that never has failed me.
It also auto-connects me to my favourite IRC channels.

quoted:

Originally Posted by Vader

Which is better, Miranda or Trillian?

I'd say Miranda.
The reason for me was, that its interface and controls handled almost like the ICQ client, which made it much easier to switch.
I tried Trillian for a few days, but there were a few often used things that handled very differently and couldn't be customized.
Also, I think Miranda has much more plugins and is more customizable.

But test both programs yourself, as I don't know how Trillian has developed the last year.

SupSuper · 2 Oct 2006, 23:23

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

But test both programs yourself, as I don't know how Trillian has developed the last year.

I'd say zero.

I love many of Trillian's features, but it seems very under-developed in some parts. Broken webcam support, transfer resuming and such. Can I upgrade from Trillian to Miranda, or would I lose all my contacts, history, etc?

Iguana · 3 Oct 2006, 00:28

That error probably has something to do with your firewall, try having MSN as an exception. Or contact your Internet connection provider, it might have something to do with that (though I doubt it).

Anyway, I'd rather use the regular Live Messenger right now. As tempting as Trillian seems, I don't think MSN would ever be the same without handwriting and bothering people with random game music and South Park quotes.

bonz · 3 Oct 2006, 00:34

quoted:

Originally Posted by SupSuper

Can I upgrade from Trillian to Miranda, or would I lose all my contacts, history, etc?

That is a very good question.
I only ever moved from ICQ-->Trillian and ICQ-->Miranda.

In those cases I the contacts are downloaded automatically from the ICQ server and I never cared about the histories.
I created my MSN, AOL and Yahoo accounts afterwards and never really used the respective original clients.

Squirminator2k · 3 Oct 2006, 00:38

I've paid for Trillian Pro, so I'm not switching any time soon.

Akuryou13 · 3 Oct 2006, 02:10

Xfire owns face. literally the only messenger I can use anymore considering the amount of video games I play almost constantly. nice, simple, easy to use, doesn't take up much ram, etc, etc, etc. awesome program.

franpa · 3 Oct 2006, 02:37

from what i know windows messenger is dead... you have to use windows live messenger now.

Xinos · 3 Oct 2006, 09:42

AOL and Yahoo should be on there too..

Is irc instant messaging?

Maunem2 · 3 Oct 2006, 09:52

quoted:

Is irc instant messaging?

I think, yes, it is...
Iguana... Thanks for trying helping me...

SupSuper · 3 Oct 2006, 10:58

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

from what i know windows messenger is dead... you have to use windows live messenger now.

It's all just names, they all use the MSN Protocol.

Windows Messenger = version 5.x and prior
MSN Messenger = version 6.x - 7.x
Windows Live Messenger = version 8.x and later

franpa · 3 Oct 2006, 11:11

msn messenger versions go lower then 5.x

SupSuper · 3 Oct 2006, 11:38

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

That is a very good question.
I only ever moved from ICQ-->Trillian and ICQ-->Miranda.

In those cases I the contacts are downloaded automatically from the ICQ server and I never cared about the histories.
I created my MSN, AOL and Yahoo accounts afterwards and never really used the respective original clients.

http://addons.miranda-im.org/details...ewfile&id=1929

Yay!

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

msn messenger versions go lower then 5.x

Yes, that's what "prior" means.

Windows XP comes with v4.0

franpa · 3 Oct 2006, 14:12

no... windows XP comes with windows messenger which is different to msn messenger and live messenger.

Akuryou13 · 3 Oct 2006, 14:56

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

no... windows XP comes with windows messenger which is different to msn messenger and live messenger.

let's do a math problem, shall we?

Windows Messenger = version 5.x and prior
MSN Messenger = version 6.x - 7.x
Windows Live Messenger = version 8.x and later

which means

windows messenger = 5>
MSN messenger = 6 & 7
Live = 8<

so, 4 comes with windows.

so, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

it's safe to assume that

1 2 3 4 < 5
6 7 = 6 7
9 10 >8

so therefore:

4 < 5

so 4 > 5
and >5 = windows messenger

then 4 = Windows Messenger!!

isn't math fun!!

franpa · 3 Oct 2006, 15:43

shame windows messenger is not msn messenger... have you tried msn messenger prior to v5.x? (lawl i give i seriously doubt im right aswell)

Xinos · 3 Oct 2006, 16:36

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

shame windows messenger is not msn messenger...

Huh? Isn't that like saying "Shame apples arn't bananas"?

Cyclaws · 3 Oct 2006, 17:48

I just use the MSN client, because I can't be bothered with getting accounts for the other services.

bonz · 3 Oct 2006, 18:42

quoted:

Originally Posted by Cyclaws

I just use the MSN client, because I can't be bothered with getting accounts for the other services.

You don't need accounts for the other services to use Miranda with the MSN protocol.

Muzer · 3 Oct 2006, 18:49

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

shame windows messenger is not msn messenger... have you tried msn messenger prior to v5.x? (lawl i give i seriously doubt im right aswell)

WINDOWS MESSENGER IS MSN!

I use it sometimes when trillian crashes and I can't be bothered to restart it

SupSuper · 3 Oct 2006, 20:10

quoted:

Originally Posted by franpa

shame windows messenger is not msn messenger... have you tried msn messenger prior to v5.x? (lawl i give i seriously doubt im right aswell)

Yeah I have:

Cyclaws · 3 Oct 2006, 23:16

quoted:

Originally Posted by bonz

You don't need accounts for the other services to use Miranda with the MSN protocol.

Why would I use another client when the official one works fine?

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Maunem2 Join Date: August 2006 Location: Beloyarsky	Instant Messaging Programs - your choice! Hello! I have ICQ. Few days ago I registered in network of Windows Messenger, but my program can't work - it say, that something with .NET Messenger Service (but it's all right) or with connecting with Internet (but it's all right, too)... What's happened? What I must do??? __________________ Excuse for my english! Вы можете встретить меня на форуме сериала "Солдаты" и http://apache.fastbb.ru. Российский форум "Про Worms" I'm fond of "Lost" & "South Park"... Last edited by Maunem2; 18 Oct 2006 at 09:39.

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Iguana Banned Join Date: September 2003 Location: Brinstar	That error probably has something to do with your firewall, try having MSN as an exception. Or contact your Internet connection provider, it might have something to do with that (though I doubt it). Anyway, I'd rather use the regular Live Messenger right now. As tempting as Trillian seems, I don't think MSN would ever be the same without handwriting and bothering people with random game music and South Park quotes.

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